"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 14:36:49 on Sat, 14 May
2016, Someone Somewhere remarked:
The TfL site is astonishingly opaque regarding what cars are allowed
or not. They can't even be bothered to install a query based on
numberplate.

It appears to say that Euro 6 diesel cars must be less than 5years
old, but doesn't mention any of the former Euro ratings.

NO

What it is saying is that vehicles of this age are guaranteed to be
Euro 6 compliant (because that is the date that manufactures were
required to meet E6).

Older vehicles may be compliant if their particular model met Euro 6
standards before the required date.

Euro 5(D) cars will never be compliant whatever their age

Like I said, astonishingly opaque. My V5 doesn't say what Euro-foo the
car is, and TfL can't be bothered to help. Wonkypedia doesn't say
either. After a lot of digging it appears to be Euro 4 (diesel).

They do say - they say if it isn't on your V5 then you need to take the
year of manufacture into account and gives the relevant years for the
relevant cars.

No, because they don't have a way for me to discover what Euro-foo my
vehicle is, and even when I jump through numerous external hoops, fail to
say what the implications are.

you have to pay the fee

If the answer is "not allowed inside the North Circular"

As that is a very new possibility why would you expect to find it on the
website?

the least they can do is tell me. But how will they police it - congestion
zone cameras twice as far out as now - sounds like a trojan horse for
congestion charges inside the "circulars".

I suspect that the enlargement will not happen. As you have pointed out it
will disenfranchise too many people too quickly.

But it still isn't clear how they will enforce it within the current zone if
the DVLA don't have the details of everyone's emission class

It can't simply be done on registration date as the website made some
reference to the possibly of modifying non-compliant cars so that they did
comply, as an alternative option to "scrapping" them

tim