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Old June 9th 16, 08:13 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Kahn fares u-turn


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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mber.org, at 06:09:52 on Thu, 9 Jun 2016, Recliner
remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
It is being reported that the "no ifs not buts" transport fares freeze
has en exposed as undeliverable.

Only applying to journeys made exclusively on TfL metals.

I have no idea how they plan to implement that for interavailable trips
like the one I did earlier this week: Kings Cross St Pancras to
Blackfriars, which you can do both by tube and Thameslink (albeit using
different gatelines at both ends).


I presume the freeze will apply only to fares set by TfL. I always
assumed
that the freeze would only apply to TfL services, as Khan has no ability
to
control non-TfL fares.


The impression I get is that it's worse than that, because while TfL may
"set" some fares, they don't get to decide what the non-TfL component
costs. That's an external input.

Thus, another journey I do from time to time - Vauxhall to
Westminster -the ORCATS-alike determinator which much surely exist to
apportion the fare between SWT+TfL (via Waterloo and Jubilee Line) or pure
TfL (via the Victoria and Jubilee lines) must have a component whose
revenue stream is outside their control, viz the National Rail leg from
Vauxhall to Waterloo.

The further out you go, to places like Richmond or Wimbledon, the more
this effect will kick in.

I also see he claims to have found enough savings to pay for the first two
years of the freeze, though most of the areas look a bit woolly (apart
from
the senior exec pay freeze). For example, reducing agency workers sounds
good, but what happens if you can't replace their presumably valuable
expertise in-house? Do you end up wasting even more money through bad
decisions?

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-rele...ings-found-to-
fund-mayors-fares-freeze


And if you do things like lay off 100 agency IT contractors, who does that
work? Presumably it's too difficult to recruit permanent replacements,
even that's a category exempt from the hiring freeze.


at a saving of 20K each presumably they aren't going to be laid off, but
(presumably) presented with "employment" contracts.

But then the first year of that saving will disappear into the fees that the
agents charge for a temp to perm transfer

tim