"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 16:45:19 on Fri, 17 Jun 2016,
tim... remarked:

It's more than airport fees.

In which case I am still waiting for your working.

It's not my working, refer to various statements by airlines.

Unless they have shown their working all they will be are press releases
with "We believe Armageddon will start if we leave"

Just admit it, you didn't make it clear

Clear to 100% of readers, or just the 99% excluding yourself?

It doesn't help your case the number of times you post here saying "it's
not clear to me", when you are the only one saying that.

I'm the only one discussing this item with you

no-one else is interested

We will have to re-negotiate, and with much less bargaining power are
almost certain to get a worse deal.

as the single limiting resource that everybody wants are slots at LHR,
how can we possibly have such a poor hand that we get a worse deal?

Because we could well end up with the US-based airlines dominating. nd
they are profit-driven.

BA isn't?

We managed perfectly well to negotiate slots for 2 airlines before the EU
meddling, why could we not do again?

The "two airlines each" thing is very long standing (1977), and something
we this side of the Atlantic wanted to change.

The two airlines from our side would undoubtedly be BA and Virgin. Market
closed to any others.

so what, 4 airlines flying to LHR, plus various options options via other
airports looks like enough competition to me

It's our asset we are negotiating away.

But without agreement from both, we could lose much of the asset.

Only if we are stupid negotiators

I believe that you do this sort of thing for a living. I don't understand
why you think we would give it away so easily

Of course some people think that the independence to negotiate these
sorts of things for ourself is a good thing, but it's naive to assume
that we'll end up with a more advantageous arrangement as a result.

More advantageous doesn't always mean cheaper

In this case "less advantageous" most certainly means more expensive.

I think you are wrong. Prices are kept down by competition, that
competition isn't going to go away

It will be much diluted if we go back to only four transatalantic airlines
at Heathrow.

It will be enough