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Originally Posted by JohnD
"tim..." wrote in message ...
But fighting this unnecessary "war" harms the very people above that you
seem to care about (that's people in general, not anyone specific)
If you are personally disinterested than that's fine, but don't disadvantage
others by fighting a war that you don't care about
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Who said I don't care? I care passionately as it happens - I really do not
want to see this country destroyed, which is effectively the aim of the
Brexiteers, whether they realise it or not. Personally I regard the main
Brexiteer fraudsters as guilty of high treason - I'd have them in the Tower
now if I had my way.
So I will personally be fighting the war at every possible turn, whether
that requires financial support or whatever. It's an existential crisis for
the UK and I'll do my utmost to try to ensure that it survives in a viable
state.
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"At every possible turn?" Really? How about putting a rational
argument instead of just predicting doom in that silly, defeatist
way?
When the referendum campaign began, I was inclined to vote
"leave" but I knew there were arguments on both sides. I was
willing to be persuaded that staying in was the better option,
so I paid attention to the assertions of the "remain" campaigners.
I didn't hear a single worthwhile argument!
What I heard was a lot of racist nonsense about how we British
are a nation of no-talent losers, far less gifted than other nations,
and certainly not capable of making our own way in the world.
I heard how the EU would wrap us round their little fingers in any
negotiations, how other countries would not want to have anything
to do with us and about how British businesses could not compete
in world markets.
I also heard that the U. K. economy was doing well - despite all
evidence to the contrary - and that it was just a matter of time
before the EU reformed itself to an enormous degree - again,
despite all evidence to the contrary.
Oh yes: I also heard that people who wanted to remain were
more intelligent and better educated than those cretins who
wanted to leave. I didn't see any evidence of this superior
intelligence; indeed their failure to judge the mood of the
electorate suggests the "remainers" weren't quite as bright as
they thought they were.
Now the referendum is over and the bad losers are still fighting
the bad fight, the same failed tactics are being used. Still no
rational argument, still the racist assertion that the British are
uniquely incompetent and inadequate, still an ungracious sneer
in response to any sensible contention made anyone not alarmed
at the prospect of leaving the EU.
May I suggest that if you wish to continue campaigning against
leaving, you begin by asking why you lost the referendum.
As part of that, I also suggest you re-read this entire thread and
cross check every point made by a "remainer" against the points
I've just made: is this a racist generalisation? Is this an ungracious
sneer? Is this a rational argument or just a wild assertion?
You may find that educational.