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Old July 17th 16, 10:19 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Will Brexit lead to the abandonment of Crossrail2 and Turning South London Orange?


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Across the Irish land frontier, no-one is subject to control of
course. The
British just don't understand land frontiers. The ability to control
flows across them is distinctly limited, unless you go to Iron
Curtain lengths.


no-one is worried about people who come here to "see the sights", they
are worried about people who come here to take advantage of our
facilities that they haven't contributed to", they
are worried about people who come here to take advantage of our
facilities that they haven't contributed to.


I think you missed Colin's point there. Land borders aren't fully
controllable anyway, unless you want to have eastern block style
borders and control practices. The UK has an open land border. The
common travel area with the Irish Republic is kind of like a
"Mini-Schengen". Part of the UK's immigration control is being
outsourced to another country, whose practices you have no control
over. And Brexit will not change that. The only actual full control
would involve introducing border controls between Northern Ireland and
the Irish Republic, and building a fence through the entire island on
top.


I'm well aware of that

my point is that it doesn't matter

no-one is worried about people who come here to "see the sights",

They are worried about people who come here to work, live etc

We now have rules in place that are meant to counter that

Though whether they work or not is yet to be completely tested

tim