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I thought it was a bit of an exaggeration, but then I used on
online
calculator (www.entitledto.co.uk), claiming I worked 20 hours a
week
for 8K per annum and was single with 4 kids, living in a band C
council property in Tower Hamlets with a rent of £120 a week.

This is what it came out with:

Initial Tax Credit £14,996.10 £288.39 This figure is based
on the income you received last year. The Tax Credits figure shown
below is based on your current income amount. Tax
Credits £14,996.10 £288.39 Working tax credit and child
tax credit.
Council Tax Support £364.52 £6.99 Your full Council Tax bill
of
£15.30 per week will be reduced to £8.31 per week because of your
entitlement to Council Tax Support. The amount you get can be
affected by other benefits. We have included the amounts we have
calculated for Working Tax Credit (£63.91 per week). Housing
Benefit £4,835.39 £92.99 Your full rent of £120.00
per
week will be reduced by £92.99 per week because of your
entitlement
to Housing Benefit. This means you will have to pay £27.01 each
week. The amount you get can be affected by other benefits. We
have
included the amounts we have calculated for Working Tax Credit
(£63.91 per week).
Child Benefit £3,213.60 £61.80
Total Entitlements £23,409.61 £450.17

So, £23k - even more than was claimed!

and falling.

hence the reason why I plumped for 20K instead of the current maximum
of 23K

When does child benefit beyond 2nd child stop?

It doesn't (the proposal was for Child Tax Credits to be restricted
to first 2 children, but that got quashed in the Lords along with the
other recent changes)

I accept that my suggestion that someone can get 20K in benefits from
earning 8K per annum in uncommon, but it most certainly isn't the
complete fiction that you suggested it was

I thought the switch to Universal Credit was going to penalise
children
after the first 2? The point made after the Lords defeat was that it
was
only temporary.

I think it's only for children born after a certain date.

Existing claimants will keep it.

The hypothesis related to new claimants of course.

In most parts of Britain, there are no new claimants to UB.

By the time it is rolled out to them, they will be existing claimants

Yes that was the point I was trying (badly) to make.

Even in an area such as my own where UC has launched, it is presently for
singles only.

So at some point - UC will launch for all, and that will be the day zero
when existing claims are protected and new ones restricted to 2no children
only.

Cheers James