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Old August 18th 16, 11:12 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Sadiq Khan and TfL on taxis and minicabs

tim... wrote:

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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ember.org, at 09:14:01 on Thu, 18 Aug 2016, Recliner
remarked:

“True independent contractors have the freedom to decide when they want to
work and what kind of work they want to do,” Benjamin Sachs, a Harvard Law
School professor told CNNMoney. “By giving drivers timeouts, Uber is
exercising the kind of control over its workforce that employers exercise
over employees.”


I thought the whole point of Uber from a drivers point of view was being
able to work flexible hours and/or part time.


well I think that they can, in the sense that they can choose what shift
times to work this week

The issue seems to be around not accepting particular rides when
self-declared "on shift".

Though the post that Recliner made was about poolriding.

Complaint was, it's more effort for no more money.

I find that very strange. I though the MO of Uber was that all of the
billing, less some percentage commission goes to the driver (the same as the
hotel booking sites for instance). So if the billing goes up because three
pool riders are sharing, then so should the amount that the driver gets.

If Uber have structured this deal so that they get to keep all of the extra
income (whilst incurring the driver in extra expense of the
pick-up/set-downs), them my like of Uber has gone down even more (by a
couple of notches).


You already hated Uber with a deep passion, despite manifestly knowing
nothing about it. So how could you now like it even less?

With regard to the pool issue, pooled customers get discount, and so the
driver also gets less from each, while his costs go up:

Quote:

With UberPool, riders traveling to similar destinations are grouped
together in the same vehicle. Riders receive a discount for using UberPool.
Uber claims the service can help drivers make more money because they spend
less time waiting between rides. (Ride requests are generally sent to the
driver who is nearest to the person requesting a ride.)

Yet Uber drivers are generally unhappy with UberPool, according to
interviews with two experts, seven drivers and an extensive review of
online forums where thousands of drivers congregate, including Facebook and
Reddit. The Independent Drivers Guild, which advocates for New York's
35,000 Uber drivers, calls UberPool a top issue for drivers.

Drivers say UberPool means more work, but not necessarily more pay. Many
also complain that driving for Uber Pool hurts the ratings customers give
them. They say the customer experience is negatively influenced by going
out of the way to pick up another rider, and then sitting next to a
sometimes undesirable passenger.
"They do it begrudgingly," Harry Campbell, founder of The Rideshare Guy, a
ridesharing blog, said of drivers participating in UberPool. "They're
basically doing the same trips, but now they have two people in [their car]
and they get paid about the same amount."

From http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/28/tech...pool-timeouts/