"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 18:17:31 on Thu, 2 Feb 2017,
tim... remarked:
"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On 2017-02-02 12:27:19 +0000, tim... said:

unfortunately, the majority of Remainers don't accept it and many of
them are vocal at denying it.

Because, as per my previous posting, it is completely false. Not every
Brexit voter wanted a hard Brexit,

well that depends upon you (/Roland's) definition of Hard Brexit

For some people any deal at all that includes leaving the SM is a hard
Brexit

The two vital, and interlinked, aspects are leaving both the single market
and the free travel zone.

We aren't in the free travel zone.


Everything else is a sideshow.

actually not

staying in, or not, the Customs Union has a very significant impact on trade

Most of those things that exporters of goods claim that we will lose/cost
them money by leaving the SM, are actually nothing to do with the SM and are
fully dependent on our membership, or not, of the CU.

I really can see, once everybody understand this, staying in the CU being an
acceptable option to all Leavers (who aren't wedded to FoM for their own
personal benefit/convictions).

It isn't going to please Liam Fox though.

for others it is leaving without a deal and reverting to WTO tariffs (and
the nonsensical idea of becoming a tax haven)

WTO is such a basic backstop it isn't a serious opportunity to continue
trading on the same basis for the next decade.

Well as your other post pooh-poohs the possibility of us negotiating an
immediate comprehensive [1] trade deal (I don't think it needs to be
entirely "Free").

That's what we are going to get, isn't it

tim

[1] it needs to be comprehensive because (AIUI) WTO rules require that.