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Old February 20th 17, 01:39 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 13:55:11 +0000
Recliner wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 13:15:32 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:
On the basis that it was likely to happen and a few extra trains couldn't
hurt anyway. According to wonkypedia 57 of the 378s were built so another
6 or so (I'm guessing it'll be around that required for the goblin) would
hardly have broken the bank considering the overall cost of the whole LO
project.


Do you think TfL has lots of spare cash sloshing around that it can
squander on trains that may never be needed? Do you really know
nothing about public sector procurement?


Clearly they are needed for service improvements elsewhere anyway. Don't tell
me they didn't know that before 2015.

So in other words they didn't order enough 378s in the first place.


They knew that by 2015. They didn't when the last 378s were ordered,
more than two years earlier, or they'd have ordered more. In any case,
they'd have still needed to order more trains for the GOBLIN and the
new eastern LO lines, and 378 has now been superseded. Better that
they get more of the modern train, rather than the old one that costs
more to operate. But then, you seem to be keen that TfL wastes as much
money as possible, buying more trains that you've previously said you
hated.


So how much cheaper will the 710s be then once you've factored in the extra
costs of a new design, driver training, signalling and depot upgrades? Got any
independent stats rather than just self serving blurb from Bombardier?

Also you seem to have completely missed the point that using seperate EMU types
on the goblin keeps the line self contained. If they'd used dual voltage 378s
there could have been through services. Thats been shot out the water now
unless they're planning on testing and type approving the 710 for the whole NLL.

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