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Old April 8th 17, 03:21 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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michael adams wrote:

"Recliner" wrote in message
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On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 14:46:03 +0100, "michael adams"
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"Basil Jet" wrote in message
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when it's more that they will have a really horrific day
if a door opens unexpectedly and a few people fall off a moving tube train.

How many people other than his fellow drivers will accept that the
door opened "unexpectedly" for any other reason than that the
driver somehow opened it himself by accident ?


There's no way a driver could open a single passenger door while the
train was on the move, so no-one would blame him if it happened.


You may well know that, and his fellow drivers may well know that,
but do the general public ? If B J's example is allowed as a real
possibility, is it realistic to suppose that LU would immediately
own up to real possibility that their trains are at fault, without
first holding some sort of internal enquiry ?

The question was whether the reports of such door openings were
spurious.


Apparently there were five such reports, the latest Jan 16th one
at least involving a light in the cab indicating a door was open.
Quite where the spurious element comes in, drivers suffering from
hallucinations, deliberately lying, or faulty indicator lights
in the cabs I'm not sure. I rather wish B J hadn't raised this as
an example as now I'm rather intrigued to know how this issue
was resolved. If at all.


Have you actually looked at the video this one?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35337580

The door opens just as the train comes to a stop, which is perfectly normal
on that line -- the drivers normally do open the doors before the train
comes to a complete stop, which is fine. But the report says this happened
as the train approached Heathrow terminal 4, and that's certainly not where
that passenger video was shot (for one thing, the doors open on the right
at T4). So I'm guessing that the BBC just used a random clip showing
perfectly normal door operation and thought this was the fault that had
been reported.

The actual door problem appears to have been acknowledged, investigated and
fixed. It was apparently a fault in a single door engine, and no-one blamed
the driver. But the union still used it as an excuse for industrial
action.