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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...eathrow-jwrcct
t60?shareToken=703895969b67292fe9096b3e8da8ef44

Extracts:

The airport_s owners - a consortium of mostly foreign investment
funds - want to recoup its past spending on the private train line
with an "investment recovery charge" of ｣570 for every train that
uses the track, plus extra fees of about ｣107 per train.

Transport chiefs and the rail watchdog argue there is no
justification for such a historic charge, and fear it could mean
higher ticket prices. The Department for Transport reckons the extra
charges would cost Crossrail ｣42m a year.

A High Court judge is expected to rule imminently on the row after
Heathrow challenged the watchdog_s decision to reject the charges.
Under contingency plans drawn up by Transport for London, Crossrail
trains could terminate a few miles short of the airport, with
passengers forced to transfer onto other trains at a suburban
station. The trains would then head back to central London, dodging
the ｣700 fees.

There is apparently an agreement:

https://your.heathrow.com/elizabeth-...row-terminal-5
-boosted-services/

"Heathrow, Transport for London (TfL) and the Department for
Transport have agreed a commitment to boost integrated rail
connectivity to the airport, including the addition of two new
per Elizabeth Line trains hour serving Terminal 5 from December
2019."

Including Oyster payment for Heathrow Express

"From May 2018, new ticket readers will be installed at Heathrow,
meaning passengers using Heathrow Express and TfL Rail between
Paddington and Heathrow will be able to use pay as you go Oyster or
a contactless device."

So how's the premium fare on HEx going to work then?

On train ticket inspection? I infrequently travel on HEx but last time
I did my ticket was checked.

I meant:

how is the Oyster machine going to differentiate when you tap on it
(at LHR)?

If the 'correction' is applied on the HEx train, then the 'touch in'
device doesn't necessarily need to know.

Presumably paper tickets will still be valid?

I was reading it as separate Oyster/Contactless touch in for HEx. How I
wasn't sure though presumably those at Paddington will be HEx-only.

At Paddington, yes, but not at Heathrow.

At Heathrow, there will still be the issue that the train service will be
free between the three Heathrow stations, so they won't be able to have a
gate line to enter the platforms. They can have Oyster touch pads like the
DLR, but it'll be tricky explaining to foreign tourists and occasional
users when they should touch in and out, and when not to.

Of course, the system can be smart enough not to charge if someone does
touch in at a Heathrow station and touches out again a few minutes later at
a different, or even the same, Heathrow station.