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Old August 27th 17, 12:39 PM posted to uk.railway,misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.transport.london
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Default London Oyster and Contactless on NR

On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 13:28:03 +0100, Robert
wrote:

On 2017-08-27 12:12:17 +0000, e27002 aurora said:

On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 12:43:30 -0500,
wrote:

I thought when the Mayor wanted to extend Oyster to National Rail route in
London ATOC insisted that railcards had to be recognised and discounts
given. So the system to register railcards on Oyster cards was somewhat
haphazardly introduced. For example you couldn't check railcard registration
status at a ticket machine. It was only when they decided to close all the
ticket offices that they had to make it possible as it now is.

But for people living outside London who aren't regular visitors contactless
became a much better option when introduced unless you are a railcard holder
because, although Oyster cards have to be registered to get railcard
discounts, they have not enabled railcard discounts against Contactless
travel.

So NR passengers can't get their railcard discounts using contactless. My
question is why ATOC put up with this? It seems to go completely against
their agreement to allow Oyster to NR routes.


As the hub at the center of the UK's rail network, I have never
understood why London's Rapid Transit system must be the exception to
the rules apply to the rest of the UK's railways. Its ticketing
arrangements should work in line with the other railways.


I'm confused. Why have you posted the same text with two slightly
different subject lines a few hours apart?


Typo in a group name first time thru.

And why do you think a ticketing system designed for a limited
geographic area and for a system which carries half the total number of
passengers in the UK should be in line with that needed for the rest of
the UK?


Why do the ticketing systems of one TOC work on all TOCs? It is for
passenger convenience. The London Underground is the hub of the
passenger rail system. As YOU say it accounts for half of the UK's
passenger journeys. Many of those journeys start outwith their
system, yet they reserve the right to be an exception to the rules.

And do you not think the systems will evolve to remove some of the
idiosyncrasies


Hope springs eternal.