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Old September 18th 17, 12:30 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Hopper fare and two journeys lasting more than an hour

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 September 2017 11:52:52 UTC+1, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:
With Sadiq Khan’s ‘Hopper’ fare in effect, what should you do if the
second journey takes you over the one hour limit? Will you have to go
forward and touch your card again?

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jhk


As others have said the system works solely, on buses and trams, on when
you touch in. Provided the second touch in is within the advertised 60
[1] minutes you will not be charged. While I understand your query about
the written language used the Oyster system is using a long established
feature that allowed for through tram to bus tickets in the New Addington
area. This is why the "Hopper ticket" was launched so quickly after Mr
Khan became Mayor - it was just a case of entering different modal info into the system.

The more complex "unlimited bus/tram rides within 1 hour" and "get second
bus ride free after a tube/DLR/Train/Overground journey if within 1 hour"
functionality is new and is planned for introduction in "early 2018"
which I assume means the January Fares Revision. I also assume TfL are
sufficiently confident in the software changes that they are testing it
now (or will after the Sept fares revision [2]) before having to freeze
system changes to allow for the main Jan Fares revision (Travelcard and NR price changes).

[1] in reality the system parameter is 70 mins but TfL don't advertise
this. It gives a little bit of "flex" in case the second bus runs late
and also covers where services run at 30 min headways and may not always
run precisely to time.
[2] yes there is a Sept fares change. It usually affects fares to / from
Watford Junction plus some other minor tweaks by the TOCs.


Thanks, Paul. Interesting information, as always from you.