In message , at 13:12:13 on Thu, 28
Sep 2017, Martin Coffee remarked:
On 25/08/17 14:14, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:23:53 on
Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Richard remarked:
[Choice of Railcards on SWR]
This is an ongoing trend. When I had TfL u my senior card onto my Oyster
recently, the only option the hilariously mardy and untrained roving
chappie had to pick was "National Rail Cards". He insisted they were all
treated as one now when it came to validity (mainly time of day, I
suppose). I very much doubt that!

Are the discounts only on Oyster off-peak fares? I think they would
be all the same in that case.

Network cards are strictly "after 10am", whereas the Senior Railcard
is "off-peak {may vary locally}"[1], and the F&F/TTG/Disabled
Railcard is "After 9.30am".

With the exception that the Senior Railcard has identical morning
restrictions as the Network one for journeys wholly within the Network
area.

No!!! That's precisely the point I was making.

For example, from where I live (within the NSE area) the first trains I
can use a

Senior Card: depart 08:58, arr London 10:13 (1st opportunity to arrive
after 10am)

Network Card: depart 10:07, arr London 11:32 (1st opportunity to depart
after 10am)

in practice, one would get the next, and faster, train:

depart 10:25, arr London 11:35.

The Senior card has the same restriction as an Off-peak ticket, whereas
the Network Card is so restricted as to be useless for doing anything in
London before noon.

Even TfL admits: "The savings are slightly different for each card."
https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...discounts-and-
concessions/railcards

But how do they know, if all railcards are coded the same?? [1]
For TfL fares their blanket off-peak is *depart* after 9.30, but for
National Rail the senior off-peak is *arrive* after 10am.

--
Roland Perry