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Old December 14th 18, 03:43 PM posted to
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Default Sadiq's looming poll tax moment

On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 16:10:59 -0000
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will be ad hoc trips of cars trucks and vans just passing through or
heading to
the ports who they know will probably forget (regular users will simply
have an
account). There was no reason not to retain a few pay by cash or
kiosks and its not as it its made a huge difference to the queues anyway
especially on the northbound through the tunnel which is is the real

I think you underestimate the chaos which "a few kiosks" would cause.

There'd be a bit more queuing , but I doubt it would make a huge amount of
difference. The regular users would still sail through the non toll sections.

Northbound there's enough zig-zagging of traffic trying to get into the
correct lane of a tunnel already, plus the problem of the junction joining
only a few 100 yards before the tunnel

Northbound is a cluster**** anyway. Putting a few toll booths back won't
make much difference.

I agree that something along the lines of pay stations at service areas on
the M2/20/25 would be a useful feature.

Thats certainly an idea.

One can only hope that now sense has finally prevailed on the Severn
and the charge is to be removed, the same can be done at Dartford.

the politics are different

Not really. Both are simply a case of "bridge needs to be paid for" turning
into "we've got a nice little earner here".

plus the small matter of having to fund the third crossing

Widening and straightening the west bore of the Blackwall tunnel and replacing
some of the traffics lights on the A12 with under/overpasses would probably
cost a fraction of the price and significantly improve the northbound flow
across the river.