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Old June 3rd 19, 09:07 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
Anna Noyd-Dryver Anna Noyd-Dryver is offline
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Default class 710 first day

wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jun 2019 10:53:05 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
TimB wrote:
On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 11:06:35 AM UTC+1, Recliner wrote:
Mike Bristow wrote:
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In article ,
wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2019 13:56:28 +0100
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
Recliner wrote:
I'm curious why only two 710s were introduced yesterday. There are

several
more sitting in Willesden, and there's been ample time to update their
software. Could it be that not enough drivers have qualified on them

yet?

Lack of driver training is the reason I heard. It suprises me, as
with only 6 trains required for the service, I'd expect you to need
no more than 30 drivers trained on the new trains - and Geoff's 710
intro video said that there were 70 drivers trained.

Are these drivers driving 378s on the NLL in the interim or are they

being paid
to just sit at home and watch Cash in the Attic like the crossrail ones?

They cover the NLL too, according to the video.

Having now watched Geoff's video, I was surprised just how many drivers
need to be trained in order to operate the six 710 diagrams.

Not just for the Goblin.


The six diagrams are just for the Goblin. The 710s aren't being deployed to
other lines until the Goblin is fully switched over to 710s.

Basically, the Goblin doesn't have its own driver pool, so all the hundreds
of Stratford drivers need to be trained on 710s, which takes quite a while,
even running three courses a day, seven days a week.


Seems a bit excessive. Surely they could just select a subsection of them
to train on the 710s.



I’m sure you’d be among the first to complain when a train is cancelled
because all of the trained drivers are either being used or unavailable,
while drivers not trained on 710s are available.

I’d imagine that over time, all appropriate drivers will be trained. For
the beginning of service, "sufficient" drivers will be trained and shifts,
diagrams etc juggled to cover the service. As steadily more drivers are
trained, the job of rostering/resourcing to cover the service becomes
easier.


Anna Noyd-Dryver