On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 16:00:13 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:



Not 50 years ago

Was LT only the Underground back then? I thought it included the buses. If
not, what was the umbrella organisation called?

As far as I recall LPTB was the umbrella organisation for London Buses
Tube and trams etc. from the 1920s

On Transport Nationalisation in 1948 this became LTE (London Country
Buses & Green Line Buses were excluded)

Might be wrong.

Assuming you're right, and LTE is indeed the parent organisation, what were
the underground railways and buses parts called?



The Londin Passenger Transport Board was set up in 1933, taking over
control of almost all public transport in London except for the main
line railways. At this time was established the London Transport area,
which extended to about 30 miles from London. It included such places
as Luton, Bishop's Stortford, Slough, Guildford and Reigate.

This was all shaken up in 1948, when the railways, docks, road haulage
and so on were nationalised. London's transport was put into the hands
of the London Transport Executive which sat alongside the Railway
Executive (and others) under the British Transport Commisson.

LTE was replaced by the London Transport Board in 1963.

Each of the above transfers affected political control and
accountability but not, I think, operations. The whole LTPB/LTE/LTB
operation was known publicly as London Transport. This included Trams,
Trolleybuses, Cental Buses, Undergound, Country Buses and Green Line
Coaches.

I think, from memories of reading London Transport Magazine in the 60s
and 70s, groups used different terms internally. The red buses were
Central Road Services and the Underground was divided into its lines
for administrative and for sports/inter-service rivalry purposes.

A good book for this stuff is the two volume A History of London
Transport by Barker and Robbins. The second volume (20th century) came
out in 1974, so it isn't entirely up to date.

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