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Old September 2nd 19, 09:56 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Marland Marland is offline
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Default Pumping useful heat out of the Tube

eGraeme Wall wrote:
On 02/09/2019 19:25, Graham Harrison wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 00:35:55 +0100, Bryan Morris
wrote:

In message , Recliner
writes
Marland wrote:
Bryan Morris wrote:
In message , MissRiaElaine
writes
On 01/09/2019 19:00, Marland wrote:

Anyhow if it wasn’t for American influence the Underground would
not have
developed in the way in it did.
Do you object to them calling the vehicles cars instead of coaches for
instance.

No, but I do object to people who call coaches buses. They are quite
different.



A coach is simply a single decker bus.

.5 seconds on the web finds plenty of operators of double deck coaches
though this was first hit ,

https://www.procterscoaches.com/the-...double-decker/

so that it is pretty poor attempt to define one.

And it is not a recent innovation that we have had double deck deck
coaches in the UK,National Express were using them decades ago , stopped
using them after an accident and reintroduced a small number a few years
back.


Isn't a coach simply a bus with lots of secure luggage space (normally
under the floor) and capable of cruising at motorway speeds (ie, ?100 km/h)
all day?

These days, it would also have seat belts, aircon and quite possibly a
toilet and refreshments. It might also have overhead luggage racks and some
sort of AV system.

BEA / BOAC used double deck coaches mainly for luggage on the lower deck
whilst passengers mainly sat upstairs (diverging I remember when
downstairs a bus was called "inside" as opposed to "outside" for
upstairs)



BOAC used Atlanteans in that configuration
https://www.flickr.com/photos/aecsouthall/40612039785. BEA used a one
and a half layout with seating over the luggage area (can't remember
the make)
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Locati...y_England.html


Southern Television's first Outside Broadcast unit was a conversion of
one of those.


Interesting, I was expecting it to be one the BEA coaches I used to see on
their way to the airport in the sixties
as in the link above which were AEC version of the AEC Regal and with a
strong family resemblance to the AEC
Regal single decker buses seen all around London outskirts in that era.

The Southern TV one is a much older model which a search reveals to be a
Commer Commando and I have no
recollection of seeing one of those at all so presumably were withdrawn
when I was still too young to remember or all my attention was on the
Trolleybuses.

Only picture I can find of it.
https://images.app.goo.gl/eL3qyWdzR88jfmvN8

Apparently the RAF had some as well.

Some info here and a survivor here.

http://yorkshireairmuseum.org/exhibi...r-commando-q4/


GH