"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 18:45:13 on Mon, 9 Dec 2019,
tim... remarked:

you seem to be arguing that trucks hauling trailers, as opposed to flat
beds with a container on top, are somehow different on their effect to
other road users

don't see that distinction myself

The distinction is whether or not they can be abstracted from the road
by sticking them on a train.

for me, the distinction was the fact that you claimed it's an urban myth
that there's a minimal number of "containers" using road

No, I said it was an urban myth that *more* than a handful of containers
were using the road.

you need to explain how that's not the same thing



Most people won't distinguish between containers and trailers

they are both annoying vehicles to have surrounding you and they have both
come off the ferry.

Not off the container ships. And probably not off the completely separate
RORO ferries. If you look at the HGVs on the A14 they are predominately
domestic-domestic.

even if they are, they are still using that route as a proxy for M25/A1 that
they used to use

trying to tell people that "there aren't many containers off the ferry"
without making it clear that you aren't counting most of the trucks
because they are trailers, is daft

See above; I wasn't claiming that.

still don't see it

tim