On Sun, 02 Aug 2020 19:46:35 +0100, Graham Harrison
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 16:35:21 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

Graham Harrison wrote:
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 15:28:38 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
On 01/08/2020 15:29, Recliner wrote:
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:28:36 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 01/08/2020 08:31, wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if
this project is even alive now. There's a map at
https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...o-thamesmead-a
dvance/

I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get
there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own
service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing
at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to
come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead
direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into
the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove
the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper.

IMO the DLR is already too big for what it is and couldn't cope with
the traffic flow even when I last commuted on it in 2014. Any further
transport enhancements in that area should involve the jubilee line.

Jubilee train = 875 passengers
DLR triple train = 852 passengers

I think the new CAF 5-car DLR trains will have a slightly greater
capacity than the current 3-car DLR fleet.


Or maybe you meant something else?

Also, the central section of the Jubilee line was already running at
max capacity. The last thing it needs is a branch to a new catchment
area.


Given you can interchange from DLR to Jubilee, that's not going to help
matters much.


Yes, but the DLR also interchanges with the Crossrail, GA and C2C main
lines as well as the District, H&C and Central lines. Those provide better
journey opportunities to most parts of central London than the crowded
Jubilee.

But a lot of that isn't at stations the Becton branch currently
serves. Not only that but Becton serves Tower Gateway so even where
interchanges do exist they aren't perfect.

I don't see any suggestion that the current service pattern would
change if a Thamesmead extension happened.

The Thamesmead branch woukd take years of planning and building. Recasting
the timetable takes months. Clearly a major new branch would change a lot.

You see, I read your previous post as extolling the virtues of all the
current interchanges which would be available to passengers on trains
from Becton today (much less Thamesmead).

Even with the current timetable, why wouldn't they simply change to
Crossrail at Custom House? That would provide a much faster route to
Canary Wharf, the City, the West End and Heathrow.

Don't some Beckton trains go to Stratford, with its many interchange
possibilities? That route provides interchanges to the District,
Hammersmith and Central lines, as well as the Jubilee at Canning Town.