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tim...[_2_] · October 20th 20, 12:13 PM posted to uk.transport.london

"Recliner" wrote in message
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Robin wrote:
On 19/10/2020 10:04, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 09:22:21 +0100
Robin wrote:
On 19/10/2020 08:37, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 10:23:28 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 23:01:02 on Fri,
16
Oct 2020, Ian Jackson remarked:
People who live in the "Circular" area, are people in normal
employment with lives that mean that they have to have a car.

and an annual tax of 5,475 pounds to own one, is bloody ridiculous

If the local councillors suggested this they would be out on their
ears at the next election

It's only because Boris is a Tory, and most of the affected LAs
are
Labour/LibDem run that he has a hope of getting away with this
politically

but it's still a bag of nonsense socially.

It's nothing to do with congestion, but simply a potential way to
raise a poll-tax the pay for TfL's huge deficit.

After the N/S Circular, how long before the M25?

Some of the media is speculating already.

If Khan had a working pair of ******** he'd have called Boris' bluff
over
this and said "Fine, the tube and bus will stop on [date] and londons
economy will come to a halt along with the substantial part of GDP it
generates. Enjoy.". But of course he hasn't and didn't.

One problem with that may be that the idea came from the Mayor's side:

Why was he pushing back against it then? From what I read in The Times
the
other day it was Number 10 and the DtT pushing on moving the LEZ
outwards as
a condition for the extra money.

The only sources I saw cited were the Mayor and his colleagues.

Please show it. Every source I can find says the exact opposite.

really, I can't find that

all I can find is Khan claiming that the DfT have told him to do this

And
politicians have been known to have it put about that A is seeking X so
they can then tell the public that X is unacceptable and they will fight
to their last breath to oppose it.

I've already posted clear news reports that this is a government plan that
they're trying to force on TfL. Khan is strongly against it. And it looks
like the public is on his side:
https://www.onlondon.co.uk/new-polling-most-londoners-blame-covid-or-government-for-tfl-financial-woes-back-ltns-and-are-satisfied-with-sadiq-khan/