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Old January 6th 21, 10:03 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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NY wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 21:23:19 on Tue, 5 Jan 2021,
NY remarked:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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Indeed, I don't think anyone stopped calling Thameslink,
"Thameslink", even when it was operated by FCC.

I remember arriving at St Pancras, maybe on foot or maybe by a tube
line, looking for the "new" (as it was then)

The station opened in 2007...

Thameslink station, following the closure of old KX Midland City
station on Pentonville Road. And I couldn't find it anywhere. All the
other lines were clearly marked on overhead signs, but there were no
signs to Thameslink. Eventually I though I'd try the "Govia" line

...and Govia didn't take over the franchise until 2014.


Yes, it was First, in the guise of FCC, that tried to expunge Thameslink.
GTR promptly returned to Thameslink branding, including on the SPILL
station.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/17087374661/in/album-72157651787464546/


Ah. I *did* mis-remember it - but I got the gist correct. When did FCC take
over and try to expunge the Thameslink name, in relation to when SPILL
opened? How did FCC describe their part of the station on passenger signage?
Did they effectively replace "Thameslink" with "FCC" (or "First") on signs?


Yes:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/St_Pancras_Thameslink_entrance.JPG


Sadly "First" tends to lead to confusion with First Class versus
Standard/Second Class in terms of ticketing and carriage seating - not a
very sensible name to use in a context where First has a long-established
meaning.



Yes, they used FCC or First Capital Connect on all their branding. And
here's an example of First selling expensive First class tickets for FCC
trains without First class seats:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/first-class-tickets-sold-for-trains-without-first-class-seats-6474136.html