tim... wrote:


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tim... wrote:
oops sent that before I had finished

try again:

apropos something entirely unrelated, I was perusing the 60+ pass
validity
and I came across the rule:

"60+ Oyster pass holders are not entitled to free travel on services
outside
of London."

at:

https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/se...ster-photocard
and
I thought *what*!Note that what I am reading are pages updated for Covid,
so are currentlydifferent to any previous pages you may have read.Is this
just a lazy way of saying that it's not available on rest of
Englandservices, or do they really mean that I can't currently use a TFL
serviceacross the boundary?Because I've certainly done that on a bus in
the past, and the ticket officeat "London Terminals", have used outside
the boundary stations for sellingme excesses (no prompting from me)The
map here's
o
help:https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/services/freedom-pass/using-pass/freedom-pass-travel-mapIt's
recently been complicated by the "not before 9:00" rule, but
containsnothing to differential between old person's Freedom pass and 60+
passes (itdon't claim to represent 60+ pass, but I can't find a map that
does).I aware of the rule that doesn't allow 60+ pass use on Crossrail to
Reading,but what about other "outside the boundary" lines?


what happened here ?


The 60+ pass is only valid in London. It's not a national bus pass (unlike
the Freedom Pass). It's always been that way, ever since it was
introduced.

Yes I know

but that doesn't make sense of the rule that I quoted, which seems to
suggest that I have to go to the driver and "pay" as soon as the bus reaches
the "London" boundary

Not on TfL buses. I don't suppose 60+ passes are valid at all on other
buses that operate into London.