Gunnar Thöle wrote:

Neil Williams schrieb:

I always thought the U-Bahn screens were a nice touch, because when
the next stop is displayed, a picture of the station or its

Hmm, yes, thats true. It will also show the possible interchanges when
the next stop is an interchange.

visible all the time - but it's more than was provided on the older
U-Bahn stock (is any of that still in service?) and it's more than is

The older U-Bahn stock is still in service, sure, on the U3 line mostly.
It still has doors that need to be opened manually (and i mean manually,
using your muscles to push it open). Most of them are refurbished,
including a digital voice announcer but excluding a display.
Unrefurbished stock has drivers announcing stops.
New stock has said TV screens and a digital announcer that is actually
loud enough.
95% of buses have a small display showing the name of the next stop. A
few buses now also have a digital announcer.

provided on most UK underground/metro stock.

I found riding buses in London to be quite difficult because information
is not very complete. But the underground network is cool.

That's interesting. What don't you consider complete about the
information? In my (probably more limited) experience, London has the
most comprehensive bus information of anywhere I have ever been. For
example: the spider maps (although I know John dislikes them :-) ).

[1] That said, bus stops in Germany are typically *much* further apart
than they typically are in the UK - certainly in Hamburg.

Yes, thats true, 500m and more. Also each and every bus stop has an own
name and there is a full timetable for every bus and train in Hamburg.
Just ask the journey planner at http://www.geofox.de/ which works very
well.

All London bus stops also have a unique name (or a letter at important
locations), which can be used in conjunction with spider maps and with
online information (www.journeyplanner.org). The WAP version of TfL's
site also extremely comprehensive and valuable information.

All they need now is to get Countdown (bus stop arrivals info) working
better!!

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London