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Old September 7th 04, 05:29 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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Default Validity of +Any Permnitted during engineering works

Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Dave Arquati wrote:


Chris wrote:

I think that whilst "+" does mean valid for a cross-London transfer, it
*doesn't* mean that it is valid for any tube journey to get to King's
Cross.


These rules can be pretty stupid sometimes! (I wonder why they don't
include a clause allowing appropriate diversionary routes for
engineering works, particular in London - or just inform LU as
appropriate).



Even better, '+' should be worth a trip between the appropriate National
Rail stations by any reasonable combination of LT services, be they tube
trains, buses or trams. This would probably be impossible with the current
ticket barriers, though - TfL would need to move to the transfer-style
system used in the rest of the civilised world.

tom


A smartcard system for National Rail + TfL would solve the problem - but
it would take a *lot* of programming! TfL might be able to introduce
something useful if they roll out Oyster to London's overground rail
network. I heard mumblings about reduced fares for combined journeys,
e.g. tube + bus. A similar reduced fare might be applied to rail + bus.

Unfortunately letting anyone use any "reasonable combination" of
services means a headache for bus drivers as they try to work out
whether the person boarding their bus is making a reasonable journey on
their "+" rail ticket or whether they are taking advantage of the system
by breaking their journey and using the rail ticket like a travelcard or
bus pass - thus losing TfL money.

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