On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:54:26 GMT, "Malcolm & Nika"
wrote:

I think you should clarify with your friend exactly what happened, 'He was
chucked out at Kentish Town and questioned in "Special" room', sounds very
dramatic. Perhaps a slight exageration in the heat of an angry phone call?

Is it legal for for him to be detained by RPIs (as opposed to BTP) for
longer than is necessary to verify name and address?

If its his first time caught he will probably get a letter saying they
thought about it and decided its in no ones interest to prosecute. 2nd
time....they will prosecute and its up to a judge.
Conviscation of tickets? The small print says its belongs to them at all
times and if they want they can take it if you are not fulfilling the terms
of the contract you both entered into.

The penalty fare system is not for people who have purchased a ticket
without the valid cards...its for no ticket/wrong ticket situations. By
purchasing a ticket that he isn't entitled to...sorry but its classed as
fraud.

So what would the precise offence be to justify the fine quoted?
Having the wrong ticket in a penalty fare area does not appear to be a
byelaw breach but infringement of PF regulations (of which I have not
found the details).

No i dont work there. I travel on it.....and frankly i'm fed up with people
free loading......if we all paid up then perhaps we could get a decent
service etc.

I would not classify inadvertent non-renewal of a railcard as
freeloading.
--
Peter Lawrence