On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Clive Coleman wrote:

In message , "Just zis Guy,
you know?" writes

I would make the observation, though, that a bus driver disgregarding
their training and behaving in a dangerous manner is no less
irrational than a cyclist disregarding all common sense and nehaving
in a dangerous manner.

O.K. This argument has gone far enough, and to be honest it's all about
point scoring and no facts are allowed to intervene.

Yay for usenet!

If a cyclist has to brake hard at any obstruction be it traffic lights,
road works what ever he is prepared and it's his own fault if he's not.
A bus driver on the other hand has to take into account maybe up to 70
other persons who are not expecting sudden braking,

Is it common to be carrying 70 people who've never been on a bus before?

Also, i'm not sure that being on a bus when it brakes hard and being on a
bike when it is hit by a bus are the same magnitude of injury - it may
well be that the latter is 70 times worse than the former (especially
given that 90% of the time, you'll be sitting down). I'm not saying it's
never right to not brake, but it's not as clear cut as you make out.

Also, i haven't been following this thread, but from this one post, you
really sound like a dangerous lunatic who advocates running over cyclists.
Just thought i'd let you know.

tom

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