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Old December 31st 04, 10:46 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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Aidan Stanger wrote:

According to section 6.3 of
http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/data/...ing-report.pdf
the proposal to close Wapping station is just a cost saving measure, and
if they can't find a way of retaining it under the current safety
regulations they could build a replacement on LU owned land just N of its
existing location.

Firstly, is this true?
Secondly, is that the reason why LU owns that land?
Thirdly, why isn't the plan to retain the station better publicised?



The Tower Hamlets report is dated March 2004. It seems their campaign
succeeded since in August, when TfL took over the ELL project from the
Strategic Snail Authority, it was announced that Wapping will not be
closed. I don't know, however, what solution they have found to the
technical problems at this site which led them to consider closure.


The "solution" is that the ELLP is being progressed as two phases. The
first phase, with the northern extension to Dalston Junction and the
southern extensions to West Croydon and Crystal Palace, will still only
use 4-car trains which can fit into the short platforms at Wapping,
Rotherhithe and Canada Water, earning them a reprieve for the time being.

Phase two to Caledonian Road & Barnsbury and Clapham Junction requires
8-car trains, bringing the future of Wapping and Rotherhithe back into
question. Canada Water would never close but would be expensive to extend
as it is on a slope and uses special safety equipment to stop trains
running away. Rotherhithe could close as a new northern exit could be
constructed at Canada Water.

As for Wapping, the expense of extending the platforms could jeopardise
the whole of Phase 2; I wonder whether TfL would rather try to negotiate
with the HMRI or whoever to allow long trains to serve the short platforms
there ("For Wapping, use front 4 cars only").

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - transport projects in London


This working practice is widely in use on the mainline railway, even more so
here on SWT now the new Desiros are in operation (e.g. Kew Bridgew,
Isleworth).

The difference on the mainline is that you can walk between carriages if you
find yourself in the wrong half of the train. This cannot be done safely on
current tube stock, and often tube trains are too packed to be able to walk
through anyway.