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Old March 18th 05, 02:57 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Jim Brown Jim Brown is offline
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Default Cheapest way to extend Bakerloo south of E&C?

Tom Anderson wrote in message ...
On 17 Mar 2005, Jim Brown wrote:

While depriving people on the Hayes line of a single-seat ride to London
Bridge and Cannon Street.


Er...

I also feel the need for a longer Bakerloo, but i really can't see how it
could be done cheaply. I don't think there are any lines lying around in
that part of south London that could be taken over completely without
disrupting a lot of the network, and inter-running with NR trains is a
recipe for disaster.


Good point; I was thinking that some interunning might be the only way
the Bakerloo would ever get extended but if this is ruled out then it
will probabaly stay where it is

The best fit, as you say and as has been suggested
before, is Hayes, since that branch is isolated past Lewisham, but even
that would take a five-mile tunnel from Elephant to Lewisham (or is there
space for another pair of tracks in any surface corridors?). At the 300
million per mile that the Jubilee cost (and that's only three-quarters in
tunnel), that's 1.5 billion (in 1990s pounds) for starters.


Of course this is the other option of squeezing in some tracks in
overland somewhere which might just be doable. Which reminds me how
about extending in the other direction; if Crossrail ever happens
there's been talk of extending/diverting the Bakerloo to Ealing
Broadway. Now howabout they do a bit of civils through the station and
squeeze in a couple more line for 300m or so and then take over the
branch too Greenford? That would cut down the number of services
needing to run into Paddington.


Now, that's about the same as one of these new aircraft carriers the navy
is set on buying; discuss ...


And they are probably what scuppered the Gosport/Portsmouth LRT tunnel
as there draught would mean the harbour would have to be dregged
deeper...