On 18 Mar 2005, Jim Brown wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote in message ...

On 17 Mar 2005, Jim Brown wrote:

While depriving people on the Hayes line of a single-seat ride to London
Bridge and Cannon Street.

Er...

I also feel the need for a longer Bakerloo, but i really can't see how it
could be done cheaply. I don't think there are any lines lying around in
that part of south London that could be taken over completely without
disrupting a lot of the network, and inter-running with NR trains is a
recipe for disaster.

Good point; I was thinking that some interunning might be the only way
the Bakerloo would ever get extended but if this is ruled out then it
will probabaly stay where it is

It's not ruled out - 'recipe for disaster' is probably a bit strong; i'm
not inspired by the frequencies managed at the northern end of the
Bakerloo, or around Richmond, but it would be possible, and better than
nothing, i suppose.

The best fit, as you say and as has been suggested before, is Hayes,
since that branch is isolated past Lewisham, but even that would take
a five-mile tunnel from Elephant to Lewisham (or is there space for
another pair of tracks in any surface corridors?). At the 300 million
per mile that the Jubilee cost (and that's only three-quarters in
tunnel), that's 1.5 billion (in 1990s pounds) for starters.

Of course this is the other option of squeezing in some tracks in
overland somewhere which might just be doable.

If it is, ideal; is it? John Rowland's notes mention "Bricklayer's Arms
and over the disused trackbed to Lewisham"; i have no idea if that's still
there.

Which reminds me how about extending in the other direction; if
Crossrail ever happens there's been talk of extending/diverting the
Bakerloo to Ealing Broadway. Now howabout they do a bit of civils
through the station and squeeze in a couple more line for 300m or so and
then take over the branch too Greenford? That would cut down the number
of services needing to run into Paddington.

If this newsgroup got its way, bleeding Greenford would be the transport
hub of the universe!

tom

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