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Old March 19th 05, 12:57 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Cheapest way to extend Bakerloo south of E&C?


Tom Anderson wrote:
On 17 Mar 2005, Jim Brown wrote:

I'm going to assume that extensive tunneling is out of the question

here
for reasons of expense but could the Bakerloo be linked up 'easily'

to
any of the NR lines around there? The tube is fairly deep at E&C so

it
would be quite a lot of work to raise the line up to viaduct level

but
could it join the line to Peckam via Denmark hill and then maybe on

to
Hays via Lewisham freeing up terminal space in London and utilising

the
Bakerloo infrastructure more efficently?


While depriving people on the Hayes line of a single-seat ride to

London
Bridge and Cannon Street.

I also feel the need for a longer Bakerloo, but i really can't see

how it
could be done cheaply. I don't think there are any lines lying around

in
that part of south London that could be taken over completely without
disrupting a lot of the network, and inter-running with NR trains is

a
recipe for disaster. The best fit, as you say and as has been

suggested
before, is Hayes, since that branch is isolated past Lewisham, but

even
that would take a five-mile tunnel from Elephant to Lewisham (or is

there
space for another pair of tracks in any surface corridors?). At the

300
million per mile that the Jubilee cost (and that's only

three-quarters in
tunnel), that's 1.5 billion (in 1990s pounds) for starters.

Now, that's about the same as one of these new aircraft carriers the

navy
is set on buying; discuss ...


There is not much point having a navy at all if it doesn't have
aircraft carriers. The existing ones are now getting old - and they
always were a bit too small.