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Old August 17th 03, 09:18 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.legal,uk.transport
Ian Ian is offline
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"PeterE" wrote in message
Ian wrote:
"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message,

The wording appears to have changed. It *was* something like "...
oncoming traffic going ahead or also turning right". In other words,
*one* car can wait on the box to turn right from each direction, but
that's all; the second car in each queue must wait to enter the box,
just as when going straight ahead.

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Rule 99 of the 1978 HC says '....you may enter the box when you want
to turn right and are prevented from doing so only by oncoming
traffic or by vehicles waiting to make a right turn.' Which is very
similar to the 1999 HC except for the word 'stopped' being used
instead of 'prevented', and a couple of commas thrown in. So I
think you are wrong. More than one car can queue in the box to turn
right, but only if the exit to the right is clear for them all once
the oncoming traffic has ceased blocking the way.


The trouble is, you could easily get in that situation and then find the
road to your right blocked by traffic from the opposite direction turning
left.

Rule 150 of the current HC says 'you may enter the box and wait when you
want to turn right, and are only stopped from doing so by oncoming
traffic.... ' It doesn't say what the oncoming traffic is doing. So if it is
turning left you can still stop and wait. The oncoming traffic can't wait in
the box to turn left or go straight on without breaking the rules. Their
fault, not yours.

Ian