Neil Williams wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2005 21:06:13 +0100, Dave Arquati
wrote:

The main problem with the geographical bus map is that although it's

easy to see which routes pass near a location, it's hard to follow
routes along the map, and very difficult to work out journeys
requiring
a change of bus.

Perhaps what is needed is a combination of the two, with bus routes
laid on top of the tube map, or a Tube-style diagrammatic route map
of
the key routes with "hubs" marked and the appropriate spider maps for
those "hubs" on the back?

There is actually a one-off spider map like that, which just shows
routes of tourist interest in the City and West End. I'm not sure if
it's on the tfl website as the only place I've seen it is inside the
"Planning your day out" (or something) leaflet. It combines a
spider-type (i.e. non-geographical) map with line drawings of places of
interest. Unfortunately it is already pretty complicated, yet only
shows major routes, which suggests that an 'all-London' map would have
to be massive scale to work!


These are interesting ideas, too:-
http://www.hvv.de/pdf/MetroPlan.pdf
http://www.hvv.de/pdf/schnellbus.pdf
http://www.hvv.de/pdf/eilbus.pdf
http://www.hvv.de/bilder/plaene/nachtbus.gif

Indeed. I'm also very keen on the French-style semi-geographic bus maps
(as also used in Stockholm), such as:

http://www.tcar.fr/ftp/FR_plan/plan_reseau.pdf

though this gets very messy in the central area, and I can't imagine
how it would work somewhere like Oxford Circus or Aldwych!