Bob Wood wrote:
Jack Taylor typed:
"Neil Williams" wrote in message
It doesn't take a quarter of the coach, either. It takes about 2
bays (or 5-6 one-side rows of airlines) which is quite a bit less.

We weren't discussing the size of the disabled toilet - we were
discussing the area taken up by the disabled toilet,
which is the entire area between one vestibule and
the corridor connection at the end of the vehicle.

How can it be that we are not discussing the size of the disabled toilet?
This part of the thread is in answer to and relates solely to your statement
that ".... there have been many complaints about the fact the the
Electrostar and Turbostar (the diesel version) devote one third of an entire
coach to the disabled-access toilet,"

Which YOU trimmed at that point. Jack added 'the five (or less,
depends on the specification by the train operating company) tip-up
seats that can be used as wheelchair spaces or for people travelling
with wheelchair passengers and the cycle stowage areas.'

The comma after toilet is a big clue.

If you want to add "the seating reserved for wheelchair passengers and their
companions and for bicycle stowage", you should have done so in the first
instance.

As he did!

Your hole is big enough. Why don't you stop digging?

I think you'll find it's you in the hole.

The bike and wheelchair space should, of course, be flexible, with
tip-up seats. It would be easy and cheap to provide more flexible
space, allowing more bikes to be carried when necessary, and more bums
on seats the rest of the time.

As it is, the operators have chosen to turn away useful off-peak
business. The rest of the time, they have a nice seat-free area for
crush-loading with commuters - and they can blame the lack of seats on
having to provide for cyclists.

Colin McKenzie