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Old July 11th 05, 03:40 AM posted to alt.conspiracy,uk.transport.london
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Default 2 is more likely (was London bombs - the work of ONE man?)

The trains affected were the following:
204 eastbound between Liverpool Street and Aldgate.
216 westbound at Edgware Road.
311 southbound between King's Cross St. Pancras and Russell Square.

If one guy did all three bombings, then the Russell Street bomb would
have been placed last at KX station.

Assumption: The Circle Line bombs were placed under a seat while the
perp rode the train for one stop before getting off. This would be
least likely to cause suspicion. The Picadilly Line bomb was dropped
by the front door and doesn't require the perp to stay on board. It
doesn't travel far enough to matter if people get suspicious.

Given the time from KX to Liverpool (8 min), and KX to Edgware (8 min)
you can't have one guy plant both bombs even if he only rides between
KX and Euston (2 min) because it would take at least 5 minutes for you
to do the round trip between Euston and KX (ride 2 min to Euston wait 1
minute for a train and ride 2min to KX).

Say you start at 8:40 set three timers for 11 minutes ... ride towards
the closest stop which is Euston, get off at 8:42, ride back towards
KX, get off at 8:45. The 204 would be close to Moorgate when the 216
left Edgware. Given the numbering, it is likely the 204 originates
earlier than the 216 so you would need to be on that train first.

Suggests: two guys traveling in opposite directions.

The eastbound guy gets off at Farringdon and is available to catch the
bus. The westbound guy gets off at Euston, turns around and heads back
towards KX. He could easily have arrived there around 8:45. That means
you would need 4 minutes to get from the eastbound Circle Line platform
to the front of the westbound Picadilly line platform.

Questions:
Is that possible without too much trouble? Is it possible to do it in 3
minutes at a brisk walk? If yes.... you don't need more than 2 guys.


Ed Lake wrote:
Ed Lake wrote:

Ed Lake wrote:

Evidence indicating that the London bombs were the work of a SINGLE
individual seems to grow.

Two bombs were on the Circle Line, one on an eastbound train going
from King's Cross toward Liverpool Station, one on a westbound train
going from King's Cross toward Edgeware Station, and one on a
southbound train of the Picadilly line going from King's Cross toward
Russell Square.

It appears that after planting the three bombs at King's Cross, the
bomber then exited King's Cross Station and got onto a southbound bus,
where he left the final bomb under a seat in the nearly empty bag he'd
used. He then got off.

There were only 4 bombs, weighing a total of less than 40 pounds.
That can easily be carried by a single person.

The reports of unexploded bombs are being denied. Police found two
suspicious packages, and they blew up at least one of them, but
there's no evidence either package contained a bomb.

At 8.51, a Circle Line train heading into Liverpool Street station,
the huge complex which acts as the confluence for a number of
underground lines as well as overground lines from north and east
London, carrying commuters in and out of the City, was rocked by a
huge explosion.

Within a few minutes, at 8.56, the underground was rocked by a
second blast, a few kilometres to the north-west, where the southbound
Piccadilly Line sweeps in from north London.

there was a third explosion, at 9.17am and several kilometres to
the west, at Edgware Road station, this time on another Circle Line
train heading west.

Source: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?...ectID=10334959

Four bombs weighing a total of less than 10 pounds each, all coming
from a central place, all detonated by TIMERS? That really smells of
the work of a single individual.

But I suppose plenty will find conspiracies somewhere in all this.

Ed
anthraxinvestigation.com



The bus is going to be the key. Did he wait at King's Cross until the
panic started before he boarded the bus? Or did he get on the bus
immediately and it just took 40 minutes or so to get to the right spot?
Either way, it seems he set the final bomb to go off when the bus was
full of people coming out of the tube stations.

It doesn't look like it would take very long for a bus to get from
King's Cross to Russell Square. The culprit probably waited around
King's Cross before getting on a bus. And he was probably one of the
first people on the bus, since he'd want a nearly empty bus so no one
would see when he put the bag under the seat.

If this is true, based upon the times when various vehicles left King's
Cross, an expert could probably tell where the individual was at almost
every minute during the entire time period. If there are any
surveillance cameras about, you could almost say he'd pass camera 123 at
8:42 a.m., camera 131 at 8:44 a.m., camera 419 at 9:15 a.m., etc.

This is the most interesting crime I've seen since the anthrax attacks.

Ed
anthraxinvestigation.com


I've done some further research, and it appears the culprit didn't wait
around King's Cross after planting the bombs on the trains, he walked to
Euston Station. It's less than a half mile away.

The Number 30 bus that blew up was going from Euston to King's Cross.

Here's the bus route and schedule for Number 30 bus:
http://www.londonbusroutes.net/times/030.pdf

At the time of the explosion, there'd be a bus about every 6 to 8
minutes going from Euston Station to King's Cross and another bus about
every 10 minutes going in the other direction from King's Cross to
Euston Station.

The bomb was on the westbound bus going from Euston to King's Cross, but
because of all the people coming out of the subways, it was diverted
down Woburn Place to Tavistock where the bomb went off.

It looks to me like the bomber expected the bus to be at King's Cross at
the time the bomb went off. But it was diverted. He evidently expected
people to be coming out of King's Cross Station because of the earlier
bombs, and then to have another go off in front of them when they got to
the surface.

The more I research this, the more it seems like the work of one man - a
very cunning man.

Ed
anthraxinvestigation.com