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Old September 13th 05, 09:16 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Neil Williams Neil Williams is offline
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Default Inevitable Cycle Fiasco

On 13 Sep 2005 14:01:53 -0700, wrote:

Hmm - hadn't thought of that one. In Southern Germany people don't
throw bottles out of car windows.


Most probably. It is a more respectful country in general, and one in
which I would be happy to live again.

Chicken and egg? If there were enough cyclists, pedestrians would
respect them.


Perhaps. But what (other than the typical British attitude) should
prevent respect anyway?..

Sorry - can't agree there. I'd be happy to have a dedicated, 1m wide
cylce path each way.


Ah, I was thinking of the usual Milton Keynes arrangement of a single
two-way shared path on one side of the road. 1m is wide enough for a
one-way path, so long as vegetation is not allowed to take over, and
so long as it is cleaned on a frequent basis to remove glass etc.
(This is one trouble of dedicated paths - car tyres tend to clear the
normal road so long as you don't ride in the gutter).

Unless your talking sports cyclists at high speed!


These will always be better off (and probably perfectly happy) on the
road, whatever paths are provided. My average speed to work is
probably about 15mph, and to be honest I don't mind riding on the road
at that speed either.

Neil

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