On 8 Oct 2005 23:31:16 GMT, "Michael R N Dolbear"
wrote:

Why do you want Cheap Day Returns to vanish ?

Because on Oyster from next year a return from Zone 6
to Zone 2 will cost £2 (£1 each way).

How do NR CDRs compare with this?

Currently (M-F for prepay)

Surbiton(6) to Clapham Junction(2) a CDR is 3.50 and 2 x Oyster prepay
is 3.60 and a day TC Z2-6 is 4.00

Like the post you're replying to says, next year the 2 x pre-pay will
only be 2.00.

Surbiton(6) to London Terminals (1) a CDR is 4.00 and 2 x Oyster prepay
is 7.00 and a day TC Z1-6 is 6.00

Since we're talking about CDRs and therefore off-peak travel, the 2 x
pre-pay would be 5.70.

Anyway, is it necessarily the case that if pre-pay were introduced on
NR, the fares would have to be the same as tube fares? Would they have
to be zonal at all?

So I think that the income of the TOCs from 'shoppers' is going to fall
and the TOCs will want Ken to repay them and the CDR buyers who don't
use the Tube from London Terminals will feel themselves the victims of
sharp practice.

Buyers of single rail tickets will gain and I expect the TOCs will want
payment for that too.

Was a special deal with the relevant TOCs needed to get pre-pay
introduced (including £2 evening/weekend singles) on routes such as
Upminster to Fenchurch Street, and especially Harrow & Wealdstone to
Euston (where tube single/return paper tickets weren't and aren't
valid)?

Prices from just outside the Zone 6 boundary will
probably look rather odd.

Perhaps. Hopefully pre-pay will not ultimately be confined to the
Travelcard zones though.