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Old October 21st 05, 09:33 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
Alan J. Flavell Alan J. Flavell is offline
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Default Can I buy an Oyster reader?

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Roger R wrote:

In this country you are innocent until proved guilty.


However, increasing numbers of offences are based solely on the
factual evidence, without any need to prove *intention*. For example
(I don't know the TfL rules, but the railway byelaws state this very
clearly) in a compulsory ticket area one *must* be in possession of a
valid ticket, otherwise it's a byelaw offence. It doesn't matter
whether you paid the fare, nor intended to pay the fare - that byelaw
offence isn't based on intention, it's based on factually not holding
a valid ticket.

You don't have to prove your innocence.


If the accused cannot present a valid ticket, then their mere
*intention* to have paid the fare might not be sufficient. IANAL.