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Old October 26th 05, 01:47 PM posted to uk.transport,uk.transport.london
Nick Finnigan Nick Finnigan is offline
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Default Red lights in Cricklewood, Harrow and elsewhere

Martin Underwood wrote:
Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in
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"Richard J." typed

Anyway, if you wheel your bicycle past the stop line on the pavement,
surely you count as a pedestrian then?



(Carrying my bike over a stop line on the carriageway, remounting
immediately after, and cycling across the T junction is quicker).

Not AIUI. If you CROSS the road, you are a pedestrian, if you move
with the traffic flow, either on the footway or the carriageway, you
should not pass the stop line.



Even though the stop line only extends across the road and not the pavement
alongside it?


http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2002/20023113.htm#36
'vehicular traffic shall not proceed beyond the stop line'

It irrelevent whether crossing traffic is pedestrian or not.
The stop line usually goes across only the left hand side of the
carriageway, but nobody imagines that using the right hand side of the
road gets you past a red light legally. Cyclists can cycle past a stop
line if there is a marked cycle lane which is not covered by it.

'Vehicular traffic' is not explained, but I would guess that a wheeled
cycle is counted as a pedestrian controlled vehicle, so is vehiclar
traffic, as is a shopping trolley. Pedestrians carrying luggage should
be OK, even if The Luggage has wheels.

The offence (if any) would come under RTA section 36,
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988...n_2.htm#mdiv36
which refers to the person 'driving or propelling a vehicle', no mention
of riding, so again it looks like a shopping trolley being pushed along
the footway need to stop at red lights (or be carried over the line).

Strange that this should be prohibited when AIUI cyclists can't be
prosecuted (or have their car licence endorsed) if they exceed a speed limit
on the road -


Speed limits, are specified as only applying to motor vehicles
(except some Royal Parks).