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James Farrar · **New fares from 2 January 2006 - pdf**

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:03 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(James Farrar) wrote:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:56 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(James Farrar) wrote:

Or bother to look at the screens on the gates.

Your lack of understanding is getting tiresome.

Your anti-Oyster moaning got tiresome a longtime ago.

Your refusal to understand the position of people who can't use Oyster
like you is what is really tiresome. People living outside the zones
can't do what you do.

They are unlikely to have a Z1-3 Annual, yes. But they can still use
Oyster pre-pay.

Your circumstances are
different from those of the sort of users I'm thinking of.

My circumstances are (like many) that I have an Annual Travelcard
loaded onto my Oystercard, but that (unlike you) I've not got an
irrational hatred for Oyster.

You're not listening again.

I'm listening, but I'm not hearing any sensible reasons why people who
live outside the zones cannot use Oyster pre-pay.

People living in Network South East rarely need Oyster or cash fares
because Oyster isn't supported for most ticketing requirements
because of Travelcards. Therefore they will need singles only in
exceptional circumstances.

Rarely != never.

But twice a year is close.

But still not never.

This year that has required me to buy just two singles.
Next year I wouldn't recoup the £3 deposit on in those journeys.

You don't have to pay the £3 again next year!

You've conveniently not acknowledged this point.

I wouldn't go through gates with Oyster anything like often enough
to know *before* attempting a journey whether it has enough credit
on it maybe six months after I last used it.

Provided the credit is above the minimum fare, that doesn't matter
until you get to the end.

And then there's Auto top-up.

And as a last resort, you can always write your current balance (or
just a note saying "need to add credit" when appropriate) on a piece
of paper and keep it with your card at the end of your journey.

You refuse to try to understand other people's real experiences.

You refuse to answer my arguments why you're "I can't use Oyster! I
can't use Oyster! *WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*" arguments have no basis in
logic and sense.

If you give me a logical, sensible reason why you cannot (as opposed
to do not want to) use Oyster, then I may be able to accept you have a
point. But as yet, you have provided no such reason, nor have you
responded to any of the reasons I have given that your crying is
unwarranted.

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