On 12 Nov 2005 09:01:39 -0800, wrote:

David Bradley wrote:

On 7 Nov 2005 07:23:36 -0800, wrote:

David Bradley wrote:

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 11:12:17 -0000, wrote:

Now maybe you just happen to like bendy-buses with overhead power lines
for their own sake? But experience seems to show that simply sticking
bendy buses onto already overcrowded roads doesn't reduce congestion. I
don't see how they're going to fix that problem by just adding some ugly
power lines to the bus.

40 metre long trains, TWICE the length of bendybuses, running along Uxbridge
Road is really going to make a difference for the better or worse? Your call
to explain that one away.

Perhaps it is, but it doesn't alter the fact that you haven't answered
the question.

Well let's have a go then although I have never said anything about using
bendy trolleybuses although it's fair to assume that is what will be used.

Not much of a go, unfortunately - the question was about why a
trolleybus would reduce traffic congestion more than a similarly-sized
diesel bus. The question isn't about pollution, or environmental
issues, or the appearance of overhead wiring. They are all subjects
worthy of debate in their own right, but they aren't the question
currently posed.

So how about taking another shot at it?


Now it's about time you made your position clear of which mode of transport
you prefer and why.

I'm undecided, and open-minded, and open to persuasion by sensible
debate.

OK then, it's difficult for me to keep track of various different threads that
appear here and elsewhere. The only sensible way was to maintain a web site
where the responses to these very questions get aired for a larger population
to see and comment upon.

Unlike pro tram supporters and the green element, we do not duck and dive from
any issues raised; if the answer to your question[s] have not been addressed
at www.tfwl.org.uk then hammer away at the "Contact Us" section.

But to speciffically answer your question here as to whether a trolleybus
alone is the magic bullet that solves traffic congestion then the answer is no
it won't; neither will a tram either. It will be a whole raft of intergrated
measures that actually gives improvements to the travelling public and these
must consider value for money and respect for the enviroment.

David Bradley