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Old January 18th 06, 07:04 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.local.london,uk.transport.london
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Default More HEX Shenanigans - ripoff Britain?

"Martin Underwood" wrote in message
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However displaying posters/signs that contradict information that
TfL has provided is very different. That's not just witholding
information. It's lying. It leaves passengers wondering who to
believe: TfL who say that their tickets are being accepted on HEx
trains or HEx who say that travel cards are not being accepted.


They're not lying. They have those signs anyway. And I doubt they
can be held legally responsible for the content of those signs,
especially when HEx are doing TfL and the public a massive favour.


Surely it is unlawful for a company to post signs which say "we do not
accept our competitor's tickets" when that is not actually the case and
when the competitor has negotiated an agreement that their tickets *will*
be affected. By displaying those signs, they are making passengers think
that they have no option but to buy a more expensive ticket, when
passengers *do* have the option of buying a cheaper ticket.


I think the only problems would arise should a HEx ticket inspector give a
TfL travelcard holder a penalty fine, or forced them to buy a HEx ticket.
Up until then, they're not breaking any laws. Technically speaking, they
only buy the TfL ticket if they intended to travel by underground. If you
intended to travel by HEx all along, you should (morally, ethically,
whatever) buy a HEx ticket. Taking advantage of others doing favours for
people isn't exactly nice, but I'm sure you don't have a problem with that


Given that the signs are normally displayed and quite correctly say that
travelcards are not normally accepted, it's probably a sin of omission:
they have forgotten to cover them up during the temporary period that
travelcards are accepted. But by failing to remove those signs, they are
making people pay extra for something that they don't need to and thus
laying themselves open to accusations (in this thread) of ripping off
passengers.s


No, as the signs are information signs only. The actual people on the
service (ie the guy with the ticket machine on the train) can not legally
challenge TfL travel card holders.