asdf wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:04:38 -0600, "Tristán White"
wrote:

I'm not sure though whether your advice about not having to beep on the
Tube either is particularly safe. Surely, if you have £20 extra on top of
your season ticket (in case you ever go out of zone) then if you don't
beep, the system will assume you have come from or are going to zone 6 and
will charge you accordingly?

If you're going out of your zones, you must touch in/out at *both*
ends of your journey.

If your journey is entirely within your zones, you don't have to touch
in/out at either end.

Furthermore, if an inspector came on and you hadn't beeped to get through
the barriers on your original station, would his handheld device not query
it and could he not suggest you are trying to come from a zone further out?

If you hadn't touched in, you'd only be in trouble if caught
travelling out of zone.


So, even if you clearly have valid tickets for the whole of the journey
you are most likely to have made, you are in trouble, purely because of
Oyster. Another great advertisement for it.

If I am in the system, it's mostly likely that I got in at a place
where I had a valid ticket, and reasonable to assume that I did, and
charge me from the boundary.

If I started from Epping with a zone 1 and 2 travelcard (and some
prepay) and didn't touch in, but touched out at Oxford Circus, I assume
that I would get away without being charged. So in that case the gate
just checks that I have a ticket that's valid at that point. Why
assume that anything more is registered on my card when touching in at
Oxford Circus before going to Epping? I don't think I'd touch at an
open gate. I certainly wouldn't put a paper ticket in one, in case it
was out of order.