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Old March 24th 06, 10:45 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Colin Rosenstiel Colin Rosenstiel is offline
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Default Anti-bike signs on Bendibuses

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(Martin Underwood) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote in
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In article ,
(Martin Underwood) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote in
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Some Bendibuses (including some or all on routes 29 and 73) have a
yellow triangle sign on the rear with a black bicycle with an X
across it.

a) What is it supposed to mean?

b) Why this anti-bike attitude from TfL?

Could it be a "don't overtake this vehicle on the left when it's
turning left" sign? I've seen this on various large vehicles such
as dustbin lorries, concrete mixers and HGVs: as I was waiting
behind a concrete mixer this very morning I saw one of these signs.
And very sensible too: anyone on a bike who overtakes on the left a
car/lorry that has indicated that it is turning left wants their
head looking at.


It doesn't say anything about turning. However, if it's stopped at a
bus stop you're stuffed either way. Because they are so long you
can't pass either side in the time it is stopped.

However, any vehicle that can't see if it safe to turn left without
injuring someone on its nearside should be banned from the roads. If
it was a railway vehicle it would be as unsafe. Two Cambridge
cyclists have been killed in the last year because of such unsafe
vehicles.


The cyclist shouldn't *be* on the nearside of the vehicle when it is
indicating to turn left. As a car driver I usually pull close to the
kerb when I'm turning left if I've just overtaken a cyclist, so as to
block him making this dangerous manouvre; as a cyclist I never
overtake anything on the driver's blind side!


Other way round IME. The vehicle turning left should not overtake the
cyclist to do so. Worse, they can't even see what they are doing. Any
vehicle like that should not be allowed on the roads.

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Colin Rosenstiel