London Banter - View Single Post - Anti-bike signs on Bendibuses

Martin Underwood · March 30th 06, 09:33 AM posted to uk.transport.london

Colin Rosenstiel wrote in
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In article , a@b
(Martin Underwood) wrote:

Neil Williams wrote in message
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Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

The solution is to discontinue the cycle lane (with an implied give
way sign where it ends) for X yards before any junction or bus stop,
to give left-turning traffic to move over to the left kerb.

No. The answer, implemented somewhat inconsistently in London and
elsewhere, is advanced stop boxes for cyclists.

Only if the rule is that you cannot overtake vehicles on the left to reach
the advance stop box if it involves you doing so in the last few yards
before the junction where you may come in conflict with vehicles which
should, by rights, be allowed to position themselves properly for turning
left. In other words, if you are already at the head of the queue as you
approach the lights, you are allowed to move further forward than everyone
else to give you an advanced start at the lights but if you are not already
there you must wait your turn like everyone else. That's always assuming
that traffic lights apply to cyclists; the majority of cyclists in Oxford
seem to think that they are exempt from obeying traffic lights and zebra
crossings ;-)

But none of the places where I have found problems with bendibuses as
a cyclist involve them turning left anyway.

Oh, sorry. I thought this thread was about cyclists who had been injured or
killed by buses etc which were turning left (possibly without the driver
checking his left mirror) and hit cyclists trying illegally to overtake on
the left to go straight on.