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Old June 26th 06, 07:42 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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Default Reduction in Chiltern Services and Funding of Shared Met Line

www.waspies.net wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
wrote:
I believe the "seating" issue on the new SSL S-stock has been decided.
It will be the same for all cars - whether formed as 6, 7 or 8's. This
will mean a slight increase in seats on the Circle/H&C Lines (and even
more so if station rebuilds allow for 7-car operation), but a reduction
of 32% on the Met Main.

This is really rather silly, given that the Met is more like Merseyrail
(a suburban rail service that happens to have underground sections)
than LUL proper, and has different loadings and journey lengths.

It would make much more sense to specify the stock with tracked seating
and no equipment under the seats so it can be adapted for the relevant
routes.

Still, presumably they'll need all that extra
standing space for those displaced off of Chiltern? The good news is
they'll have air con (in the driver's cab only mind you...).

That *is* ridiculous. Given that the subsurface lines do not suffer
the same issues as far as tunnel ventilation goes as the tubes do, I
was expecting full aircon throughout.


Unless something's changed recently, S stock will have air con
throughout:

"The sub-surface lines will receive 190 air-conditioned trains in the
first 12 years of the contract, replacing and enlarging existing
fleets on the Metropolitan, Circle, Hammersmith & City and District
lines. The new sub-surface line trains will feature inter-connecting
gangways, allowing passengers to walk through the entire train. They
will be the same design, saving on maintenance and parts, and together
with new signalling, will achieve vastly improved journey times. The
first new train will enter service on the Metropolitan line in 2009
with others following at the rate of one every 10 days."
http://www.metronetrail.com/default....=1079446073890

And do you really believe them......?


Why shouldn't I? TfL have ordered air-conditioned trains, Bombardier
will deliver air-conditioned trains. If Bombardier don't deliver
air-conditioned trains, then they are not fulfilling the order, and
somebody doesn't get paid.

On an additional note, although people have been saying that S-stock
will only have longitudinal seating, the promotional shots show a mixtu
http://www.metronetrail.com/default....=1088068912937

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Dave Arquati
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