David Tran wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
David Tran wrote:

David Tran wrote:

Hi all

I have incorporated a London Tube Map into my website for plotting
routes around London's underground network, as people keep saying
to me TfL can do it better. Well, I don't see the TfL route
planner showing the routes on a map :-)

Seriously though, I do not have access to the timetable etc., so
will not be able to tell you the best times to travel, but if you
want to see all the alternatives to get from A to B, so in case a
certain route is not available (like the Waterloo and City line
currently), then my utility will help (and the visual aspect
should be a bonus too). You will be shown each route as a list of
stations on the left hand
side, and also as a series of green dots along the traversed
lines, with the source and destination stations marked by map
pins. If you hover over each green dot, the name of the station
will be displayed. I am trying to add some points of interest along
each route, but
it is an ongoing project. If you know of any, do let me know.

The URL is http://public.ok2life.com/tube/routes. As usual, all
feedbacks welcome (please use the MessageBoard provided, or mail
me). David


Hi

I just like to leave a message for Richard J, who made a comment
about the route from Marylebone to Turnham Green. I understand you
are not happy with the accuracy of this particular route, but it
was contributed by an anonymous user, and it would be wrong of me
to remove it as you suggested.


The route suggests Bakerloo Marylebone-Edgware Road, then walk to the
other Edgware Road and catch a District Line train to Ealing
Broadway. Ignoring the issue of whether the walk between the two
Edgware Road stations is preferable to a change at Paddington, the
FACT is that except possibly for a few workings, there are generally
no direct trains from Edgware Road to Ealing Broadway. Therefore,
suggesting a route which involves waiting at Edgware Road for an
Ealing Broadway train is WRONG. You can check this yourself on the
TfL Journey Planner by asking for a route from ER to EB and seeing
how many direct trains it manages to offer. Relying on voting to
establish that this route as described is "unpopular" (rather than
downright wrong) is in my view a misuse of democracy.

I am not the editor, and I am not in a position to judge how
accurate a route is, so if you know that this route is not correct,
you could always force it down the popularity list.


You mean I can continually vote against it so that it collects
hundreds of negative votes? So it's not even democratic! But it's
already at the bottom of the popularity list of 3 routes, assuming
that the routes are listed in that order, and there are no voting
numbers as far as I can see. So just how am I supposed to know that
it's not just 3rd out of 3, but highly misleading?

I am trying to be just a provider of a service, and not be
responsible for the contents, unless they are offensive to others.


In that case the site is anarchic and has no value IMHO. I am
tempted to propose Marylebone-Oxford Circus, then the Central Line
to Turnham Green. Well, it was a proposed extension in 1928! And
you wouldn't remove it in the name of democracy? Daft!

Well OK I will need to take this offline in the next message, but just
like to say here that to point out a problem without a proposed
solution is only half useful.

How do you suggest I should solve this problem of providing useful
info to everybody ? the calculated routes sometimes get it wrong
because they do not know about certain stations which are quicker to
walk. I provide people with a facility to suggest route, but this
only works if people makes sensible suggestions. To go in and zap
every route I do not like is simply not the solution either. Please
be constructive in your next message.

By the way, there is spamguard in place, so if you keep clicking on a
vote for or against, only the first will register :-)

I can see you point of view, but I have got to say that I think Richard
is correct. (And I don't think you should take off-forum a discussion
that has been started here when there is a chance that others might want
to join in.

I think think the idea of being able to submit alternative routes is a
very good one, but clearly if somebody adds a 'crazy route' there has
got to be soem mechanism for removing it. To simply leave it, even at
the bottom of a list, suggests that it is a viable alternative when in
fact it is nothing of the sort.


--
Bob