Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

(snip)

(Also not being able to use a YPR
when buying travelcards from most outlets is a pain.)

All National Rail ticket offices and London Underground stations
should be able to issue you a Railcard discounted all zones Day
Travelcard at £4.80, but if you are not travelling on National Rail
and not across all zones ) it may be cheaper to just PAYG using
Oyster capping, but you probably know that already.

True - but a) the Underground ticket machines don't offer this (or even tell
you that you need to go to the very busy manned window); b) I suspect a lot
of ticket staff don't know this and c) I doubt many YPR holders know it
either. Away from this group I've never seen anything telling me this is
possible. (I would test it but I live in a NR area and the season ticket
means I haven't needed to buy a day travelcard in over two years.)


There's a good reason why YPR holders don't know they can get the
discount from LU - it seems ATOC (who run the railcard schemes) don't
know either!

See this from the FAQ section of the Young Person Railcard website -
the last sentence in particular...
(I've copied it in full for posterity should they ever correct it)

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14. Can I use my Railcard for tickets for travel on the London
Underground? All discounted rail tickets bought using your Railcard
routed 'between London termini' are valid for cross-London transfer on
the London Underground. Off-Peak Day Travelcards (All Zones only) are
also available, subject to a minimum fare. Please note, however, that
you cannot use your Railcard to obtain a discount when purchasing
tickets from a London Underground booking office.
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The same or similar wording appears in the terms and conditions
smallprint of the YPR leaflets!

It's for this reason that when I was a YPR holder I never even tried to
get a discounted Travelcard from a Tube ticket office. I really
could've saved some money - as I'm sure many others still could.

After all LU ticket offices may well be ignorant of this because no one
ever asks them for it - if lots of people did I'm sure they'd wise up
quite quickly.

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[1] http://www.youngpersons-railcard.co.uk/faq.htm