On Oct 23, 10:34 pm, Paul Corfield wrote:
runs away and screams

There was a policy decision that said the JLE was to be gated off from
other lines (where feasible). Originally Stratford was going to have a
completely separate route from the street level ticket hall to the JL
platforms. The route where the interchange gateline would only have been
accessible from BR / DLR / Central Line platforms.

I remember asking about this in 2004, and the answer given was that the
JLE was gated specifically as an anti-fraud measure, to ensure that
anyone coming off the GE main line or the NLL would have a valid
ticket.

Will the introduction of zonal fares result in more of these
'interchange' gatelines, to keep people from buying out-of-zone
tickets, boarding at ungated NR stations and then using the various
unbarriered gaps to 'get in' to the LU system?


I think LU was unable to secure the land to construct the bridge link to
provide the street to JL unique link (I think Railtrack were being
particularly awkward) so we ended up with the mezzanine "up and over"
design. We argued like hell about the interchange gateline as it is
unique - it took a long time for people to realise the coding and
validation issues it would create. However once it was drawn on the
architect's plan it was going to be built.

I always thought that there was supposed to be an extra entrance on the
west side of the station, where the internal ticket office was - the
empty part of the mezzanine seemed to confirm this. Now, knowing that
the mezzanine will have direct access to the ungated DLR, I suspect
that this 'interchange' gateline will be lauded as joined-up foresight!
;-)


And as for plans drawn up for other locations to create the same
"barriered off from everything" approach you would not believe the
nonsenses we had to deal with.

Is this why West Ham has so many long straight passageways? Were there
plans to stick a gateline in the overbridge on top of the NLL
platforms?


I still disagree with the idea to this day!

Agreed! It still feels 'wrong' to pass through a gateline when heading
for the Central Line or to the street.