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Old October 27th 06, 07:36 AM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.transport,uk.transport.london
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Default Paul from SafeSpeed on BBC Breakfast today on Driving OffenceCameras

Simon Hobson wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:28:55 +0100, ib wrote
(in message ):

There is never any reason to block a box junction


Oh but there are several :

Local driving standards (politeness) have degenerated so much that if you
don't break the rule you will never get across the junction.

You entered the junction when there was a gap, but some other c**t has nipped
into your gap.

You have estimated that given the speed and spacing of the cars ahead, you
will be able to clear the junction, and by going ahead you will help to keep
the traffic flowing - then some ignorant t**t ahead stops for no reason and
blocks your exit. Of course, he's alright because HE isn't involved with
anything, it's just the trail of problems he leaves behind.

The other side of the junction is round a corner, and you CANNOT see if there
is enough space until you are committed - mostly affects long vehicles, but
not exclusively.


I could go on, but a big factor is the drop in driving standards - which is
being very effectively accellerated by automated enforcement. People ARE now
driving to avoid penalties, not to 'good standards'.



But I have to throw in one other - you are driving a slow vehicle, and the
lights have been through several cycles before you get across ! OK, so it's
rare, but it does apply to some outfits.


Oh, you've been to Scarborough have you? Bad luck!

Best wishes all,
Dave.